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As Cars Are Kept Longer, 200,000 Is New 100,000

The New York Times -- HOW far can a modern car really go? Given the increasing age of vehicles on American roads, we may be on the verge of finding out. As a stubborn recession made drivers wary of new purchases for several years, the average age of vehicles on the road in the United States stretched to a record 11.1 years in 2011, according to the research firm R. L. Polk, which tracks vehicle sales and registrations.

Multiply that number of years by the annual miles driven — the E.P.A. uses 15,000 for the cost calculation on fuel economy labels — and it becomes evident that one pearl of conventional wisdom has become outdated.

In the 1960s and ’70s, when odometers typically registered no more than 99,999 miles before returning to all zeros, the idea of keeping a car for more than 100,000 miles was the autom

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egd Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:8,226 Points:2,145,025 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 11:11:15 PM Ignore egd Report Abuse good luck
sljbc475 Champion Author Tucson Posts:4,355 Points:899,100 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 11:10:35 PM Ignore sljbc475 Report Abuse Car are designed and manufactured to last longer.
olive2trvl Rookie Author Philadelphia Posts:68 Points:352,065 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 11:09:56 PM Ignore olive2trvl Report Abuse 154k on my 03 Element. I buy and hold. Had my 97 Nissan pickup for 15 years!
ScottTee Champion Author Detroit Posts:4,527 Points:1,090,320 Joined:Mar 2010	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 11:08:27 PM Ignore ScottTee Report Abuse if maintenance costs are reasonable, why not?
dancygreen Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,188 Points:511,370 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 11:05:39 PM Ignore dancygreen Report Abuse if it makes it, 300k will be the new 100k for my vehicle
kingpin6 Champion Author Arkansas Posts:2,925 Points:1,573,600 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 11:04:30 PM Ignore kingpin6 Report Abuse Pushing 204,000 in my 2002 Buick Regal. Still runs good; have had no major mechanical issues with it. Why even think about buying a new car? When it hits 250K, I will re-evaluate, but if it is still running as good as it is now, probably won't make a change then either. Who says American cars aren't dependable?
bigmamaCO Rookie Author Colorado Springs Posts:15 Points:3,125 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 11:01:19 PM Ignore bigmamaCO Report Abuse i hope for 200,001
checkitnow Champion Author Atlanta Posts:2,131 Points:594,975 Joined:Aug 2010	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 11:00:20 PM Ignore checkitnow Report Abuse no need for a new car when the old one runs well
FuelOilOH Champion Author Cleveland Posts:2,842 Points:1,184,595 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:59:48 PM Ignore FuelOilOH Report Abuse The most I have put on a car to date is about 170,000 miles, a Volvo and electronics killed it coupled with a leaking rear main bearing seal.
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suzmar Champion Author Texas Posts:2,223 Points:896,185 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:57:25 PM Ignore suzmar Report Abuse My car has 118,000 miles and runs like new.
PoohMcGoo Champion Author Alabama Posts:3,122 Points:822,360 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:56:32 PM Ignore PoohMcGoo Report Abuse Unless it's a GM..
Bud122CA Champion Author California Posts:7,601 Points:1,631,825 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:53:36 PM Ignore Bud122CA Report Abuse Wow!! What is mine worth???? I have 352,000
altima2008 Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:8,295 Points:1,763,740 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:53:27 PM Ignore altima2008 Report Abuse Who can afford a new car anymore?
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:6,118 Points:1,136,670 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:52:31 PM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse Hey Mark do you always wash your car with a broom???
Shines357 Sophomore Author Florida Posts:113 Points:56,590 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:51:56 PM Ignore Shines357 Report Abuse My car has 180,000 miles...
TXryder Champion Author Texas Posts:2,849 Points:459,535 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:51:56 PM Ignore TXryder Report Abuse Well my 91 nissan is over 20 yrs old and has over 200k. Still moves my butt down the road and with fairly good gas mileage. My other autos are well over 10 yrs old also. Drive em till the bottom rust out!
OKRifle Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:10,577 Points:1,837,010 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:48:59 PM Ignore OKRifle Report Abuse Damn straight we are keeping our vehicles longer! Screw the United Auto Workers Obama Union!
crowefamily1 All-Star Author Texas Posts:804 Points:297,100 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:48:55 PM Ignore crowefamily1 Report Abuse I buy a used car every couple of years that are 150,000 miles or better and they last me 2 to 4 years befor I get rid of them and I pay around 3 - 5000. so I'm good to go, go, go...
FlyNFool Champion Author South Carolina Posts:8,375 Points:1,711,820 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:46:26 PM Ignore FlyNFool Report Abuse I've had two vehicles over 100K recently and no problems. Funny thing is that they were both GM's.
cimilluca1 Sophomore Author New York Posts:193 Points:234,425 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:41:52 PM Ignore cimilluca1 Report Abuse 200,000 is not a reach these days. It's all about preventative maintenance!
itzagasgasgas1 Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:4,109 Points:1,625,995 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:37:30 PM Ignore itzagasgasgas1 Report Abuse I'll probably get at least 150K out of one. I would really like a 2013 model, be it the new Ford Fusion or the Chevy Malibu Eco.
cateyes8264 Champion Author Tennessee Posts:2,997 Points:664,965 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:37:11 PM Ignore cateyes8264 Report Abuse Mine is a 99, has hit 212,000 miles, starting the hunt for a newer one, with less miles. Not looking forward to it. I like having a car that is paid for!
colaguy Champion Author Columbia Posts:3,224 Points:1,020,760 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:33:47 PM Ignore colaguy Report Abuse I hope to get 200k on each of our cars before replacing them
bra0712 Champion Author Arizona Posts:3,790 Points:794,825 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:33:21 PM Ignore bra0712 Report Abuse For me 100,000 is the new 50,000
Chris46 Champion Author Dayton Posts:23,954 Points:2,107,475 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:33:01 PM Ignore Chris46 Report Abuse cars are lasting longer. Not a myth.
DavoIL All-Star Author Chicago Posts:810 Points:959,085 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:31:38 PM Ignore DavoIL Report Abuse they,re built better, people take better care of them than in the past,so they last longer
tml721 Champion Author Columbus Posts:12,747 Points:2,416,275 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:31:20 PM Ignore tml721 Report Abuse I'm getting ready to buy a truck with 220,000 miles on it. NO clue to how long I'll keep it.
lowpet All-Star Author Texas Posts:527 Points:86,915 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:30:17 PM Ignore lowpet Report Abuse I think that's a very good thing, it proves that American cars can be quality, put Americans back to work
steben11 Veteran Author Montreal Posts:382 Points:494,415 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:26:58 PM Ignore steben11 Report Abuse my van gm have over 100,000 miles and i change oil every 3000mi
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fuelsaverMN Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,282 Points:559,080 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:24:25 PM Ignore fuelsaverMN Report Abuse It runs great and i have no problems at all not enough an ounce.
fuelsaverMN Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,282 Points:559,080 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:23:32 PM Ignore fuelsaverMN Report Abuse I will keep my car a toyota as long as i can to keep my costs down.
GLM4205 Champion Author Toledo Posts:4,182 Points:825,070 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:21:42 PM Ignore GLM4205 Report Abuse You sure lesndave that you had your car until 2019???
tonoplast All-Star Author Lexington Posts:887 Points:469,240 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:19:37 PM Ignore tonoplast Report Abuse True. Most cars are much reliable than they used to be when I was a young dinosaur instead of an old one.
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judgemobile Champion Author Ohio Posts:7,700 Points:2,471,660 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:19:02 PM Ignore judgemobile Report Abuse the last CASH FOR CLUNKERS program at least achieved getting a lot of Bummer 2008 stickers off the road. The next one will accomplish...what ?
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sillywagon Champion Author New York Posts:15,113 Points:1,468,070 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:17:16 PM Ignore sillywagon Report Abuse My "younger" vehicle is a 2006 Ford Focus Wagon. It has 71K on it, have spent money on maintenance, but zero dollars on repairs. I intend to own it until it isn't worth owning, hopefully that will be 200k.
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mikerroy Champion Author Albuquerque Posts:2,691 Points:747,175 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:14:48 PM Ignore mikerroy Report Abuse Both my car and truck have over 100,000 miles on them.
texasvet Champion Author Texas Posts:3,886 Points:364,140 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:14:42 PM Ignore texasvet Report Abuse I don't know about that. I drive my cars until I have an unscheduled maintenance charge, and then it's on to the next. Last time the battery went dead and I traded it in while they were replacing the old one.
DCbeachbum Champion Author South Carolina Posts:2,667 Points:925,615 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:12:15 PM Ignore DCbeachbum Report Abuse I bought a Jeep Wrangler on the showroom floor in 1999. I still have it today. Runs great, never had a costly problem yet.
k2kipp Champion Author Minnesota Posts:3,238 Points:1,148,675 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:11:45 PM Ignore k2kipp Report Abuse Sorry. I only use anything thes rag prints as TP.
RAE344 Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:3,207 Points:688,245 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:08:42 PM Ignore RAE344 Report Abuse Does it matter, these older cars don't do well with the new alternative fuels. Ethanol does horrible things to older engines.
southtown43701 Champion Author Ohio Posts:11,556 Points:2,443,655 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:08:17 PM Ignore southtown43701 Report Abuse right now we should be fillin' up with diesel & natural gas. / a no brainer.
John747 Champion Author Chicago Posts:474,600 Points:3,651,635 Joined:Aug 2001	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:05:08 PM Ignore John747 Report Abuse That can't happen! President Obama is planning his entire energy policy on ALL of us buying new "green" cars. Well, we also need to include pond scum (aka Algae) as a large part of his energy policy.
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mckellyb Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:12,573 Points:2,276,405 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:03:22 PM Ignore mckellyb Report Abuse Cars being "worn out" @ 100K miles is 25 year old thought. Most people tire of them for other reasons, then search for reasons to replace.